Burnout, Futurology, and Flow

Steven Kotler
by Flow Research Collective
August 1, 2023
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Steven Kotler

This episode is a fun one because we turn the tables, you’re going to hear Steven Kotler, cofounder here at the Flow Research Collective, being interviewed by the guys—Charlie and Ben— behind the famous Youtube channel Charisma on Command

Charisma on Command has over four million subscribers on Youtube, and both Steven and Rian have been fans of the channel for years. 

About six months ago at a party in Venice Beach, Rian bumped into Ben, who knew of Steven’s stuff, so we set this up. 

Anyways; it’s a fun episode and a chance to hear Steven go into topics he doesn’t often delve into as much:

From futurism and Steven’s book The Future is Faster Than You Think, to dopamine abuse, psychedelics, drugs and the backstory Steven’s book Stealing Fire.

One of my favorite bites just in the beginning is Steven talking about Tune in, turn on, go to a bake sale - so make sure to catch that moment.


In this episode, you will learn about:

  • Shifts in perception (1:11)
  • The hardball reaction (2:53)
  • The Future is Faster Than You Think (6:06)
  • The biggest migrations in human history (9:33)
  • The transportation change (14:38)
  • Dopamine in the sense of bonding (17:26)
  • Altered states of consciousness (21:45)
  • Psychedelics vs. Flow (24:26)
  • What is Flow? (27:31)
  • Flow Triggers (31:47)
  • Risk and flow (37:55)
  • Tech and morality (40:29)
  • The history of evolution (55:56)
  • Lean deeper into your craft (1:01:05)
  • Quantum dynamics (1:03:40)
  • Dealing with burnout (1:06:02)
  • How to sustain flow (1:08:50)
  • The passion recipe (1:11:08)
  • The future of AI (1:16:55)


Charisma on Command: Charlie and Ben help millions of people around the world to turn on their most confident, charismatic self in the moments that matter most.


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